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:Also, as an aside, SmashWiki documents competitive play because it IS endorsed (in a limited capacity) by Nintendo. They have sponsored specific competitive events prior. They simply cover more in the fan sphere in addition to formal events. The difference is that as a competitively oriented multiplayer game, documentation of the multiplayer events is expected. Competitive play is still a part of the original game/franchise—same goes for Splatoon or ARMS. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 06:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC) | :Also, as an aside, SmashWiki documents competitive play because it IS endorsed (in a limited capacity) by Nintendo. They have sponsored specific competitive events prior. They simply cover more in the fan sphere in addition to formal events. The difference is that as a competitively oriented multiplayer game, documentation of the multiplayer events is expected. Competitive play is still a part of the original game/franchise—same goes for Splatoon or ARMS. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 06:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC) | ||
:::"I do not believe in the crossing of official and fan content unless absolutely necessary to do so or if they are officially recognized" | |||
::EarthBound is known for its dedicated famdom, which even Itoi himself acknowledged their dedication. We could put a limit in terms of fan made ''content'', but I do not believe we should ban an article about the community or about websites like Starmen.net and EB central simply because it's not official. Perhaps for fan games though we could list them on a condensed page, like on the [[EarthBound hacks and fangames|ROM hacks page]]? (Which that page could use a bit of a cleanup) | |||
:::"This will only end up confusing the end reader, even if it is in a different namespace and with a warning banner" | |||
::This would be more of a concern for a wiki covering a major franchise like MarioWiki, which spans accross thousands of games with constant releases. We're a wiki documenting a franchise that spans 3 games and hasn't had a new release in 18 years, something that has basically became common knowledge, I don't feel we should be as strict as they are in terms of completely banning any mention of something that is unofficial. As long as we keep it seperate from the mainspace similar to how SmashWiki has a strict rule not to mention Project M/+ outside of it's own articles or competitive pages, this shouldn't be too big of an issue, especially if we take the route of listing projects and games. | |||
:::"What does "the community" mean?" | |||
::It means just that. The fan community that plays and enjoys the EarthBound franchise. Every gaming franchise, big or small, has a fanbase. EarthBound's fanbase has been noted many times for it's strong dedication. | |||
:::"Hard Drop documents both official and fan creations and it has on multiple occasions also led to people just bulk documenting their own creations instead of meaningful contribution" | |||
:::"What makes a particular entry notable versus one that is not?" | |||
::This is a legitimate concern and something I failed to make an account for. It would be less of a problem if we were to limit most projects onto a list much like the aforementioned ROM hacks list. | |||
:::"It might be appropriate to have a page about fan entries as a general discussion point with the names of a few examples just to acknowledge they do exist" | |||
::As mentioned earlier this can be an option instead for projects and fangames. | |||
:::"WikiBound is not and should not be a documentation of the community of the franchise, it should be the documentation of the official series and what is actually being released" | |||
::Our goal is to be a helpful repository for the series. The fandom is something that is brought up all the time so it isn't fair to completely ignore it just because it is not an official subject. The point of this proposal is to acknowledge their existence and some of their major work, not have hundreds of individual articles documenting every single minor project. At the very least, we should have a page documenting the dedication of the community similar to how Wikipedia's article does it (the [[User:NintenBOUND/EarthBound fan community|fan community]] article that was attempted could work, but from a quick read even I agree it needs a major cleanup before being mainspaced, perhaps rewriting it to be about the fanbase in general and not elaborate documentations of their projects, but stuff like the merchandise and documenteries should stay) | |||
:::"SmashWiki documents competitive play because it IS endorsed (in a limited capacity) by Nintendo. They have sponsored specific competitive events prior" | |||
::And they have had articles on the competitive scene sincle long before Nintendo had attempted to work with them in the past. Plus they even have pages on {{sw|gameplay modification}}s, and Project M/+ have their own articles, and they're not endorsed by Nintendo (and as a matter of fact is something Nintendo opposes). They began documenting the competitive scene because it became too big to ignore and not solely because Nintendo has sponsered it. We don't need to go as elaborate when documenting the community as they are, but I'd still rather have something rather than nothing. | |||
::All in all I do agree with the concerns of opening the floodgates for what fan projects should and shouldn't be allowed, so I am considering limiting fangames to being on the aforementioned page dedicated to it, however at the very least, we as an EarthBound-centric wiki should have an article about the community's dedication and examples of what they have done, rather than ignoring it completely. --<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Ultimate</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">Toad</font>]]'''''</span> [[File:Toadsig.png|20px|link=Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad]] 23:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
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